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By Dean Lawton November 27, 2025
BEHIND THE NETWORK – Ep. 55 with Chad Gregory, Dominion Lending Centres Hosts: Dean Lawton & Jason Marshall Behind the Network returns with an inside look at Dominion Lending Centres, one of Canada’s most influential mortgage brands. Chad Gregory, Vice President of National Sales, joins Dean and Jason to trace DLC’s journey from its Ontario startup roots to an industry-defining network built on brand, belief, and relentless innovation. Chad shares stories from the early days — long drives, cold calls, and the hustle that helped turn a new logo into a national force — and explains how consistency, client care, and technology continue to shape success for brokers across the country. From Door Knocks to National Impact When Chad joined DLC, the company had a small Western presence and a big vision. Tasked with launching Ontario operations, he and a small team hit the ground running — calling, driving, and visiting every brokerage that would listen. “It was a grind,” Chad says. “But we believed in what we were building.” That belief started with a simple conviction: the industry needed a brand. At a time when brokerages operated as small, disconnected shops, DLC invested in national marketing, consistency, and recognizable credibility. “It was about building trust,” Chad explains. “The same way Canadians trust their banks, we wanted them to trust mortgage brokers — and a strong brand makes that possible.” Within a few years, DLC’s footprint had exploded. The combination of professional branding, smart recruiting, and community-building created a ripple effect that would reshape the broker channel entirely. The Power of Process Before joining DLC, Chad learned sales the hard way — knocking on doors. “The first door I ever knocked on, I froze,” he laughs. “But every one after that got easier.” That experience became the foundation of his leadership style. Today, he teaches brokers the same principles that helped him build the network: use proven scripts, role-play daily, and follow a rhythm. “It’s not about reading from a script,” he says. “It’s about understanding what works, internalizing it, and making it sound like you.” Chad also emphasizes what happens after the deal closes. A small gesture or follow-up can create lifelong clients. “The bar for post-funding care is low,” he says. “When you show up after closing, you stand out — and that’s where loyalty starts.” Tools That Redefine Efficiency DLC’s growth hasn’t just been about people — it’s been about technology. Chad points to My Mortgage Toolbox, Velocity, and Gold Rush as key innovations driving broker success today. My Mortgage Toolbox, DLC’s mobile app, has become a staple for brokers and clients alike. “The most Googled term in our space isn’t ‘mortgage rates,’ it’s ‘mortgage calculator,’” Chad notes. “If your clients don’t have your calculator, they’re using someone else’s — and that means they’re in a competitor’s funnel.” The app’s refinance analyzer tool has helped brokers close millions in additional business, giving clients personalized savings reports within minutes. Then there’s Velocity — DLC’s all-in-one broker platform. Developed as a secure, efficient alternative to legacy systems, Velocity integrates applications, documentation, compliance, and lender submissions in one place. “We built our own highway,” Chad says. “When the rest of the industry was stuck in traffic, we kept moving.” And with Gold Rush, brokers can finally automate what they used to neglect: consistent, meaningful communication. The built-in CRM drives renewals, birthdays, and milestone campaigns that keep brokers in front of their clients — all refreshed annually to stay relevant. “You just have to turn it on,” Chad says. “It does the heavy lifting.” AI and the Future of Brokering Chad believes the next competitive edge lies in AI adoption — and DLC is already ahead. Velocity now integrates GPT and Gemini to improve lender notes, polish client emails, and assist with document verification. “AI isn’t replacing brokers,” Chad says. “But brokers who use AI will replace those who don’t.” Through its AI Essentials training, DLC is helping brokers adopt technology responsibly — blending automation with human expertise to save time, reduce errors, and elevate client service. Broker Development & Culture At the heart of DLC’s success is a commitment to its people. Chad attributes much of the company’s staying power to culture — the way it celebrates broker achievements, invests in training, and cultivates a shared purpose. “It’s always been about partnership,” he explains. “Gary and the leadership team have built a culture that puts brokers first. When people feel supported, they stay, they grow, and they build something bigger than themselves.” For ABW, that philosophy mirrors its own approach — bringing brokers together under a collaborative, education-first environment. “It’s not just about recruiting,” Dean adds. “It’s about helping every agent become the best version of themselves within the network.” Training That Drives Growth One of the most compelling takeaways from the conversation is DLC’s approach to training and continuous improvement. From foundational sales scripts to advanced AI modules, the company provides an infrastructure designed to help brokers grow by design, not by chance. “Our training library is deep,” Chad says. “From mindset and marketing to lender relations and client conversion — we’ve built a curriculum that supports a 15–20% year-over-year business increase when followed consistently.” Dean and Jason plan to bring that framework directly to the ABW network through new DLC-led training sessions in 2025, ensuring ABW brokers get hands-on exposure to the same proven systems that drive national growth. A Network That Listens In a fast-changing market, innovation only matters if it’s shaped by the people using it. That’s why DLC’s leadership has made listening part of its operating model. “Our agents tell us what’s working and what’s not,” Chad says. “Velocity updates, CRM tweaks, new features — they all start with broker feedback.” Through advisory groups and one-on-one collaboration, brokers’ ideas directly influence platform updates, campaign design, and training initiatives. “It’s not top-down leadership,” Chad emphasizes. “It’s partnership — and that’s why we keep getting better.” For ABW, that principle resonates deeply. “Being heard matters,” Dean says. “We’re building a community that doesn’t just use the tools — we help shape them.” Culture, Leadership, and What’s Next At its core, DLC’s growth has always been driven by people. “Our job is to make brokers’ jobs easier,” Chad says. “That’s been Gary’s message since day one — deliver value, innovate, and never stop improving.” Dean and Jason echo that mindset within the A Better Way network. “It’s the same culture we’ve built,” Dean says. “Show up, invest in your people, and always think about how to make their work better.” Looking ahead, both DLC and ABW are setting ambitious goals. With DLC targeting $100 billion in funded volume, ABW’s aim is to represent 10% of that. Chad calls it realistic — and motivating. “The best is yet to come,” he says. “2026 will be our biggest year yet.” Why You Should Listen This episode is a masterclass in growth — how belief becomes momentum, how systems drive performance, and how technology amplifies human relationships. Chad’s story is proof that even in a digital age, the fundamentals still matter: connect, communicate, and care.. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
By Dean Lawton November 13, 2025
BEHIND THE LENDER – Ep. 54 with Steven Lang, VWR Capital Hosts: Dean Lawton & Deryk Williamson Behind the Lender returns with a deep dive into VWR Capital, a long-standing Canadian MIC known for consistency, clarity, and client-first execution. Steven Lang joins Dean and Deryk to unpack how VWR scales responsibly, makes quick and fair decisions, and supports brokers with a simple product set that performs in good markets and tough ones alike. Steven’s Path: From Credit Union Leadership to MIC Growth VWR’s differentiation starts with restraint. The lender sticks to a straightforward, one-year product, clear loan-to-value limits, and conservative risk standards. The watchwords are consistency and policy discipline. If a property has issues or a profile is outside the box, VWR is comfortable saying no quickly and steering the broker toward a better fit. Fee Philosophy VWR is known in many markets for low fees. That matters, especially for clients newer to private lending. Fees are stable at renewal, and there is no appetite for surprise costs. The approach is simple: fair APR, low friction, and no gouging. While cost sensitivity varies by province, VWR keeps the structure steady to protect clients and reputation. Speed, But Not at Any Cost Speed wins deals, but it cannot replace underwriting. VWR guarantees a commitment within 24 business hours once it has the information it needs, and the team is investing in technology to accelerate condition review next. When speed requires tradeoffs, VWR stays aligned with compliance and fraud controls. Quick is good. Reckless is not. A practical tip from Steven: start with your BDM. An email with only the property address in the subject line is enough to confirm if the location fits and what max LTV might look like. That quick pre-flight check saves hours for everyone. The Relationship Lens: How VWR Works with Brokers VWR is intentional about partnerships. The team prioritizes responsiveness and candid guidance, even if that means recommending another lender. That trusted path-to-no builds long-term loyalty and keeps VWR at the top of a broker’s call list when the next file appears. Communication standards are clear: answer fast, escalate early, and keep the broker in the loop. On rush files, relationships matter. Partners who submit complete, transparent packages get faster solutions, fewer red flags at legals, and smoother client experiences. Inside the Credit Desk: Workflow and Escalation Files route from BDM to underwriting, with assignment based on licensing where needed. The BDM stays active throughout, not as a pass-through but as an accountable partner. If a decline is likely, the BDM is pulled in early to explore alternatives. Escalations can move to the underwriting manager and Steven’s team with a focus on structure, data, and a make-sense approach. The most common friction point is undisclosed information that surfaces midstream. VWR’s stance is simple: disclose early, fix problems together, and keep investors protected. Market Signals: Where the Demand Is Shifting The core private profile still shows up: self-employed clients, credit challenges, and borrowers navigating income normalization. Two trends are rising: Developers holding finished inventory. Cash flow is tight for some builders with a few unsold homes. Bridge support to a sale is increasingly common. Condos and presales pressure. In some markets, values are not matching purchase price on completion. VWR will look at these, often at lower LTVs, and with eyes open on time-to-sell and carrying costs. When risk rises in a segment or region, VWR tightens LTV and focuses on marketability. When data improves, the team expands carefully rather than trying to time the exact turn. Exit Strategy and the Ability to Pay VWR does not calculate traditional debt servicing, but the story must make sense. How will the client make payments in the short term, and what is the credible exit? The target is not a one-year deferral of a problem. It is a bridge to an outcome: sale, refinance to B or A, or a repair and stabilize plan that is realistic in the current market. Compliance and FinTrack: Ahead of the Curve VWR’s processes have evolved with AML and FinTrack expectations, including post-funding monitoring where warranted. Regular audits, licensing, and training keep the team aligned with the rules while preserving an efficient borrower experience. Investors expect that rigor. Borrowers benefit from it when expectations are set clearly up front. Technology and Data: Practical First, Powerful Next VWR is layering in integrated systems that centralize data across sales, marketing, underwriting, and accounting. The goal is simple: cleaner data, faster insights, better decisions. A near-term example is an interactive lending map that displays cities, max LTVs, appraisers, and the right BDM contact at a click. Next up is boundary logic and postal code precision. AI is already in daily staff workflows for drafting, analysis, and ideation. On the credit side, low-LTV, well-defined segments may be candidates for higher automation over time, with human checks preserved for investor comfort and edge cases. Borrower Experience and Post-Funding Care VWR’s largest team is administration: renewals, payouts, recoveries, and collections. Response times are measured in hours, not days. Clients get structured touchpoints before renewals and clear guidance on what to do next. The standing request from VWR to brokers is simple: stay engaged after funding. When brokers remain the client’s primary advisor, outcomes improve and future refinances stay in the relationship. To help brokers, VWR provides a simple post-funding contact sheet with the right numbers for payments, renewals, and statements. Adding that to your client handoff reduces confusion and inbound noise, and raises client satisfaction. Broker Playbook: How to Win with VWR Start with the address. Confirm lendable area and ballpark LTV before you build the full package. Tell the whole story. Disclose all material items up front. Surprises slow everything down. Show a credible exit. Outline the refinance path or sale timeline, and how payments will be made in the interim. Build the relationship before the rush. Meet the BDM now so your first live file is not your first introduction. Use VWR’s resources. Newsletter, tools, and quick BDM consults will reduce back-and-forth and help position files the right way. The Road Ahead As rates evolve and spreads compress, VWR will protect margins, watch product mix, and continue investing in data and tech. Growth is the plan, but not at the expense of culture. The company intends to remain a relationship-led lender that brokers can reach, understand, and rely on for the product it does best. Why You Should Listen Catch the full conversation with Steven Lang to hear the nuance behind the policies, the real-world examples, and how VWR thinks about risk, speed, and service in today’s market. If you found value in this episode, subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube, and share your feedback. And if you want weekly market context, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo for concise updates brokers can use with clients. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
By Dean Lawton October 30, 2025
BEHIND THE LENDER – Ep. 53 with Jesse Bobroski, Calvert Home Mortgage Hosts: Dean Lawton & Deryk Williamson In this episode of The Mortgage Broker Podcast, Dean and Deryk continue the Behind the Lender series with Jesse Bobroski, Vice President of Calvert Home Mortgage. Recorded on-site at Calvert’s Calgary headquarters, this conversation dives deep into how one of Canada’s most established private lenders—now celebrating 50 years in business—continues to evolve, innovate, and serve brokers across the country. From Bartender to Private Lending Leader Jesse shares his unconventional path into the mortgage world. After completing a finance degree in Ontario, he moved to Calgary during the financial crisis and stumbled into alternative lending while bartending. A chance meeting with a couple who ran a syndicated mortgage firm opened the door to a career in private capital—a world Jesse found refreshingly transparent and relationship-driven. Nearly two decades later, he’s built a career defined by mentorship, curiosity, and an unwavering focus on helping borrowers who fall outside the banks’ comfort zones. Today, at Calvert, he helps manage a diversified Mortgage Investment Corporation (MIC) that funds short-term mortgages for both real estate investors and clients who simply don’t fit the traditional mold. Inside Calvert Home Mortgage Founded in 1981 as a MIC by Everett Keller, Calvert has grown from a family-run brokerage into a nationally respected private lender. Now led by Everett’s sons, Dean and Dale Keller, the firm has expanded from $35 million in annual fundings to over $550 million—supporting more than 1,400 transactions a year. Calvert’s approach is rooted in service, education, and innovation. A key differentiator? In-house valuations. Instead of relying on third-party appraisers, Calvert employs its own appraisal team to assess properties and manage risk. This allows for same-day funding, faster decisions, and greater confidence for both brokers and investors. Valuations, Risk, and the “After-Repair” Mindset Jesse explains how Calvert’s internal valuation system is central to both client speed and investor security. Every deal is stress-tested and backtested to ensure accuracy. When discrepancies arise, Calvert takes a collaborative approach—welcoming appeals and feedback from brokers and local experts. Their After-Repair Value (ARV) model also sets them apart. Especially for flippers and real estate investors, Calvert acts as both lender and consultant, evaluating renovation budgets, utility costs, and even carrying expenses. Borrowers can secure financing with as little as $10,000 down, enabling more opportunities for investors and tradespeople to participate in the market. Multifamily Momentum and Market Trends The conversation turns to multifamily lending, where Calvert is gaining traction. Rather than ground-up construction, their focus is on underutilized small-scale multifamily properties—sixplexes, eightplexes, or similar—that can be repositioned and refinanced through CMHC’s MLI Select program. Jesse also highlights major industry trends, including consolidation among private lenders, increased professionalism, and a more data-driven approach to risk. He notes that Alberta’s cyclical market has taught lenders resilience—an experience now helping them navigate corrections in BC and Ontario. Behind the Scenes: Calvert’s Team & Workflow Calvert’s workflow is designed for speed and precision. Underwriters are empowered to make exceptions, escalate intelligently, and communicate directly with brokers to find solutions. Every deal moves through a refined structure—from credit decision to legal instruction—largely managed in-house, including their legal team, to minimize cost and friction. Their culture rewards underwriters who “find a way to make deals work,” reinforcing a make-sense approach that values relationships and creativity over rigid formulas. The Broker Relationship When asked about working with brokers, Jesse is clear: “We want to win with the winners.” Calvert prioritizes partnerships with top-tier brokers who understand their products and share their mindset for speed, transparency, and trust. These relationships are strengthened by responsiveness—returning texts after hours, collaborating directly with borrowers, and delivering on tight timelines. Renewals are handled ethically and proactively, with brokers always contacted before the borrower and no surprise fees. It’s all part of a long-term retention philosophy that protects both client and broker relationships. Compliance, Technology, and the Future Calvert approaches compliance as a strategic advantage, not a burden. As early supporters of the Canadian Alternative Mortgage Lenders Association (CAMLA), they’ve helped shape industry standards and policies. Jesse emphasizes a balanced approach: staying ahead of FinTrack and AML expectations while keeping processes “make-sense” and client-friendly. On the tech front, Calvert is investing heavily in data centralization and AI-driven insights. Their long-term goal: a fully integrated platform that connects accounting, underwriting, business development, and broker portals—automating valuations, pricing, and performance analytics to improve service and scale intelligently. Borrower Experience For clients—especially real estate investors—Calvert strives to make borrowing “as effortless as possible.” Their team can manage everything from document collection to direct communication, always keeping the broker in the loop. Once a client is introduced by a broker, they remain that broker’s client for life. This trust-based system has built a loyal network of repeat investors and brokers who rely on Calvert not only for financing but for mentorship, analytics, and market insight.  Final Thoughts As Calvert celebrates 50 years, Jesse Bobroski and his team are proving that innovation and integrity can coexist in private lending. With their in-house valuations, commitment to education, and data-first strategy, Calvert is redefining what it means to be a modern MIC. Their focus remains clear: faster decisions, stronger broker relationships, smarter technology—and a mission to help more Canadians build wealth through real estate. Why You Should Listen This episode offers a masterclass in how modern private lending really works—from underwriting culture and borrower psychology to valuation, tech, and risk. Whether you’re a new broker learning the ropes or an established pro seeking trusted partners, this behind-the-scenes look at Calvert Home Mortgage is packed with insight, strategy, and inspiration. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
By Dean Lawton October 15, 2025
Behind the BROKERAGE – Ep. 52 with Justin Noda, Chief Compliance & Operations Officer In Episode 52 of The Mortgage Broker Podcast, we launch a brand-new series— Behind the Brokerage —dedicated to exploring the systems, strategies, and structure powering A Better Way Mortgage Group. To kick off the series, Dean and Deryk introduce a pivotal addition to the leadership team: Justin Noda , the firm’s first-ever Chief Compliance and Operations Officer. This milestone marks a major evolution in how A Better Way approaches brokerage management, compliance, and agent support—reflecting a commitment to professionalism, protection, and long-term sustainability in the Canadian mortgage industry. Building a Culture of Compliance Compliance is no longer an afterthought—it’s a leadership priority. With FinTrack, new provincial regulations, and the upcoming Mortgage Services Act in BC, ABW has been working behind the scenes to strengthen education, processes, and broker confidence. “Our job as brokerage owners is to protect our agents,” Deryk explains. “That means giving them the right people, the right tools, and the right systems.” Enter Justin Noda—an 18-year mortgage professional whose experience spans brokering, underwriting, leadership, and regulatory design. His addition reflects ABW’s belief that compliance isn’t bureaucracy—it’s a strategic advantage. From Underwriter to Industry Leader Justin’s career began in underwriting, where he developed a passion for problem-solving and process improvement. Over the past two decades, he’s held leadership roles with ClearTrust, Origin Mortgages, The Mortgage Center, and Centum Financial Services (CFS). At Origin Mortgages, he served as Managing Director under Kyle Green, overseeing national compliance and operations initiatives during one of the industry’s most complex regulatory shifts. His work there—and later with CFS—produced frameworks still used today for FinTrack readiness and broker education. “I love being the white knight,” Justin laughs. “I like protecting brokers—even if they don’t realize it at first.” Why Compliance Is Changing Everything The trio explores why compliance is no longer a check-the-box exercise—it’s the foundation of professionalism. Justin highlights how FinTrack, evolving AML rules, and new provincial acts are reshaping daily brokerage life. Dean adds, “Having someone like Justin who’s lived the broker life means we can translate complex regulations into real-world processes. This is about making life easier, not harder.” At A Better Way, compliance is becoming less about enforcement and more about empowerment—helping agents understand expectations while giving them the support to meet them confidently. The Vision for Behind the Brokerage Two levers define her proce e:conmms csnhi sand P ecei.tSe Bgsk Atanegh,how thes bpore.rJiobracomtocti ae(txp /peons/yatn )and BkesptPihsmprov,caovga naadm —rvntowhsdhtelunpenoesitc“tsbnrilbyst ”BRubyOtlsnan er rtBsmgl eruhrsoirsfuyahnult:salaecdgsahoPictin gesgsnhirce osurj it anesTse feoineoyognailineieidv .iIe est.hle sthemhfels,w osn fdmss ls taise ta neek u ttsdt fe olnauspfrfo vshborlnsdf s dps As part of his new role, Justin will lead the Behind the Brokerage segment—an ongoing series that opens the curtain on brokerage operations, regulation, and innovation. In this section of the conversation (00:19:23), Justin outlines the topics and themes he plans to tackle: 1. Regulatory Insights and Policy Breakdowns Expect deep-dive discussions into the BC Mortgage Services Act (MSA) launching in 2026, along with FinTrack updates, audit preparation, and how these shifts affect day-to-day brokerage life. Justin will break complex policies into actionable guidance, explaining not just what the rules say but why they matter. 2. Inter-Provincial Differences and Best Practices Each province—BC, Alberta, and Ontario—has its own regulatory nuances. Justin will compare frameworks, highlight the 75 percent of similarities and 25 percent of crucial differences, and help brokers understand how to stay compliant across borders without slowing business. 3. Brokerage Operations and Lender Relations Beyond regulation, Behind the Brokerage will explore operational excellence—how brokers can strengthen relationships with lenders, manage deal desks effectively, and build scalable systems that enhance service and compliance simultaneously. 4. Policies, Procedures & Internal Systems Justin emphasizes the importance of having clear, accessible brokerage policies and procedures. These frameworks define how to handle disclosures, onboarding, lender communication, and even new criminal-code interest-rate guidelines. Every agent should know where to find them—and how to apply them. 5. Collaboration and Education The series will also spotlight voices from across the DLC Group—leaders like Mary Gronkowski and Scott Musselman—sharing insights on how technology, training, and compliance can coexist to elevate broker success. Together, these conversations aim to create an open, educational platform for every broker—inside and outside of A Better Way—to learn and lead with confidence. Why This Matters for Brokers The role of Chief Compliance & Operations Officer extends far beyond policy checks. It’s about ensuring every agent has: Clarity on what regulators expect. Confidence that their systems protect them. Support when navigating complex compliance or deal challenges. As Dean puts it, “This is about making our brokers’ lives easier—turning compliance into a tool, not a burden.” The Future of ABW Leadership With Justin joining the executive team, A Better Way continues its transformation into a brokerage known for education, culture, and forward-thinking operations. The Behind the Brokerage series will serve as the voice of that vision — sharing insight not only with ABW brokers but with the broader Canadian mortgage community. Final Thoughts Justin Noda’s arrival marks a turning point in how A Better Way approaches growth, governance, and agent support. His 18 years of hands-on experience and his passion for education bring clarity to a complex landscape. As the industry evolves, this episode is a reminder that true leadership means building the systems that protect and empower people. With Behind the Brokerage, A Better Way is turning compliance into conversation — and setting a new standard for transparency and trust. Why You Should Listen This episode is essential for any broker, manager, or team lead who wants to stay ahead of the industry curve. Dean, Deryk, and Justin break down how regulation, operations, and leadership intersect — and why compliance done right can actually accelerate your business. It’s the beginning of a new era at A Better Way — and a new conversation for Canada’s mortgage industry. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
By Dean Lawton October 2, 2025
Behind the BROKER – Ep. 51 with Ruby Bains - Mortgage Professional Ruby Bains—one of A Better Way’s original Mortgage Architects brokers—joins the Behind the Broker series to share how a 25-year banking career (from teller to branch manager) laid the groundwork for an 8-year run as a relationship-driven, client-first mortgage broker. Licensed in BC and Alberta, Ruby blends lending, investments, and wealth insights to guide everyone from first-time buyers to reverse, commercial, and construction clients. From Banking to Brokering Ruby spent her last 15 years in banking as a branch manager, approving well-packaged deals, balancing risk, and living inside audits and compliance. Moving to brokering meant shifting from “approver” to “doer”—meeting clients, collecting docs, and underwriting. The learning curve was real, but the decision was right: she loves the work and the impact. Managing Expectations (People vs. Process) Managing a branch and managing clients share the same core skill: set clear expectations and follow through. Ruby’s bank experience helps her think like both the client and the lender, which makes her packaging stronger and her communication sharper. Relationship-First, Always Ruby’s business is built on connection. She starts with thoughtful discovery—short- and long-term goals, timelines, plans for the home—then builds strategy around the client’s life. Whenever possible, she meets in person (even if it means a long drive). That human touch translates into raving fans—like first-time buyers who invited her to their house-warming to meet family and friends. Smoothing the Experience Two levers define her process: communication and speed. She asks clients how they prefer to be contacted (text/phone/email) and keeps them proactively updated—even when the update is “no news yet.” Ruby also added a small but powerful habit: calling the listing agent once subjects are essentially good to remove. It reassures the file, opens doors with new realtors, and often leads to fresh relationships. Personal Development & Balance Ruby left the 9-to-5 to support three boys in high-level sports—and found a rhythm that works: focus time from morning to early afternoon, family and activities after school, then a short evening work block. She sets personal and professional goals annually and checks in quarterly, keeping the list realistic and actionable. Meditation and mindfulness set the tone every morning and help her stay calm when deals get noisy. Tools & Tactics That Matter Ruby keeps her pipeline tight with Velocity/CRM plus a simple spreadsheet to track funded business. She’s leaning into AI for content ideas and efficiency and even recruits her kids to help polish social posts. One surprising game-changer this year: working from the office again. Getting dressed, showing up, and eliminating home distractions significantly boosted focus and output. Industry Outlook Digitalization, market volatility, and rising consumer expectations are reshaping the landscape. Ruby’s answer: be authentic, stay current, and position yourself as a lifelong advisor. Tools help—but tailored guidance and trust still win. Visibility & Personal Brand Ruby’s next big push is showing up more—on social, in short educational videos, and through podcasts. Though naturally private, mentors nudged her to share real life alongside mortgage insights (yes, even the golf rounds). The goal: combine expertise with authenticity to create visibility and new opportunities. Coaching & Team Development Ruby plans to engage a coach to refine process and efficiency, while continuing to mentor her assistant and a fellow broker. Teaching keeps her sharp; coaching adds accountability and structure—together, they support a more scalable, sustainable business. Advice for new brokers Keep your moral compass in check. Think long-term. Be transparent and remember that being a broker means having solutions—even when the answer isn’t at the client’s bank. Audit your daily habits, protect your mindset, and don’t work in a silo—lean on the community around you. Why A Better Way Ruby chose A Better Way because of the unmatched support, culture, and resources. From masterminds and workshops to an open-door leadership style, she sees ABW as a community that truly invests in its brokers’ success—making it easier to serve clients at the highest level. What’s Next Visibility. Ruby plans to create more education-forward content (podcasts, short videos, and social posts). Though she’s naturally private, she’s leaning into sharing more of the real life behind the broker—because visibility drives opportunity and human connection. Final Thoughts Ruby’s blueprint is simple and powerful: know the products, ask better questions, update clients before they ask, and never stop building relationships. Pair that with balance, authenticity, and service to community, and you have a business model that thrives well beyond rate cycles. Why You Should Listen If you’re looking for a practical model of resilience, growth, and relationship-first brokering, this episode delivers. Ruby shares real-world strategies for communication, deal navigation, and building a career that balances life, family, and business—without losing authenticity. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
By Dean Lawton September 17, 2025
Behind the BROKER – Ep. 50 with Anil Kumar - Mortgage Professional How product depth, persistence, and community-first values built a durable mortgage business In Episode 50 of Behind the Broker, Dean Lawton and Jason Marshall sit down with Anil Kumar—one of A Better Way Mortgage Group / Mortgage Architects’ most dependable collaborators. A career salesperson turned broker in 2018, Anil shares how he built a reputation on deep product knowledge, relentless follow-through, and genuine service to clients, referral partners, and community. From sales pro to solution builder After immigrating to Canada and switching industries, Anil chose brokering for its flexibility and impact. Two decades in sales meant outreach, networking, and starting fresh came naturally. He applied that muscle to learning policies, meeting BDMs, and earning trust across communities and provinces—so when a file gets tricky, he already knows where to turn. What keeps him going Client outcomes—and the gratitude that follows—fuel the work. He recalls difficult purchases saved on subject-removal day and credits lender partners who help make brokers look like heroes. Those wins keep the fire lit through slower market cycles. Relationships first (and a longer first call) Anil’s first conversation often runs 30–45 minutes. He learns the family story, background, and common connections—especially within the Indian community—so the relationship goes far beyond a transaction. He’s candid when the best option is to stay with a client’s current bank, and if a broker-channel solution isn’t available, he’ll still find a path so the client and realtor don’t lose momentum. Smoother files, fewer surprises Discipline and communication are his shields against chaos. Using a CRM (Blue Mortgage), he schedules proactive updates to clients and realtors—every other day near close, weekly if farther out—and even checks in with conveyancers so small details don’t stall the finish. Work–life harmony (not “balance”) Daily movement and walks are non-negotiable—and often where the “sixth-lender” solution appears. His spouse is licensed and runs fulfillment, and his kids are immersed in money and markets. Even on holidays, he blocks a few focused hours for work, then is fully present with family. Tools and learning rituals Anil’s toolkit includes Blue Mortgage, e-signing, Adobe, Lender Spotlight, and AI tools like ChatGPT/Gemini, plus simple video tools for social. For signal over noise, he leans on Be the Better Broker, Mortgage Logic News, and primary sources like StatsCan/CMHC/BoC. He shows up to lender sessions and asks the questions others are thinking. The biggest lever: product knowledge “Nothing replaces education.” He urges brokers to get product-strong before chasing referrals. Persistence matters just as much: so me of his wins arrived after five to seven declines—including insured files where the third insurer finally said yes. Strong BDM relationships—and discussing files before submitting—shorten the path to “approved.” Community and giving back Anil supports community-focused events and initiatives, including Friends for Cause Foundation, which funds free rural cataract surgeries in India. Inside the industry, he’s quick to answer questions and share learnings—because real collaboration lifts everyone. Adapting in a rate-obsessed market After 2023’s rate shock, he reframed conversations to value, solutions, and clarity of expectations. He’s also diversified into reverse and commercial, meeting brokers and realtors where their clients need help most, and he’s mentoring a small team—many of them former clients. Advice for new brokers Be product-strong first. Don’t give up on a file until every viable path—channel, credit union, non-channel, insurer—has been explored. Learn directly from BDMs, use your CRM, and document everything so the next file moves faster. Why A Better Way / Mortgage Architects Anil joined Mortgage Architects out of gratitude to the mentors who shaped his career and stayed because ABW’s culture, training, technology, and open-door support make it feel like family—and make it easier to serve clients well. Final Thoughts Anil’s blueprint is simple and hard: learn the products, ask better questions, update before you’re asked, and try the seventh lender when the sixth says no. Pair that with service to community and peers, and you build a business that thrives beyond rate cycles. Why You Should Listen If you’re looking to move clients off “rate talk” and into real solutions—or you want a practical model for resilience in any market—this episode delivers. You’ll walk away with concrete habits for communication, deal navigation, and long-term growth. For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.
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