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Behind the BROKER with HERJIT DRIVER


Episode 33 of The Mortgage Broker Podcast –  Behind the Broker Series: Herjit Driver

Guests:  Herjit Driver

Hosts: Dean Lawton & Jason Marshall


From Sink or Swim to Hall of Fame: Herjit Driver’s Journey as a Top Mortgage Broker


In a recent episode of the Mortgage Broker Podcast from the Behind the Broker series, hosted by Dean and Jason, we had the privilege of sitting down with Herjit Driver, one of the standout agents at A Better Way Mortgage Group and a recent inductee into their Hall of Fame. This episode offers a deep dive into Herjit’s remarkable career, her meticulous processes, and her heartfelt approach to client relationships—making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the mortgage industry or personal growth. Here’s a summary of the key takeaways from her story, but trust me, you’ll want to watch or listen to the full episode for the full experience!


A Tenacious Start in Mortgage Brokering

Herjit’s entry into the mortgage world wasn’t planned—it was a classic case of “falling into it.” Back in February 2007, she transitioned from a contract role at a real estate office to mortgage brokering when a realtor connected her with a broker friend. Her “interview” was more of a crash course: handed a system manual and told, “You start tomorrow.” Then, her boss jetted off to Mexico, leaving her with a book of clients and a sink-or-swim scenario. Herjit chose to swim. “I’ve always been tenacious,” she explains. “You give me something to do, I’m going to find my way through it.” With no prior financial experience, she leaned on resources like BDMs, websites, and broker kits to figure it out—and she’s been thriving ever since.

What fueled her success? A love for learning and a nerdy passion for finance and housing. “I didn’t know the difference between a refinance and an amortization,” she admits, but the chance to help people while mastering something new kept her hooked. Herjit’s story is a testament to how resilience and curiosity can turn a leap of faith into a Hall of Fame career.


Mastering Change and Building Systems

Eighteen years in the industry have given Herjit a front-row seat to massive shifts, from the 2007 landscape to today’s market. Her secret to navigating change? Embracing it. “I like change—it helps us grow,” she says. Staying ahead means tapping into lender partnerships, asking questions, and doing her own research. Unlike some veterans who resist industry evolution, Herjit sees it as a chance to adapt and stay fresh—perhaps because, as she quips, “I get bored fast.”

Her success isn’t just about mindset; it’s about dialed-in systems. From client onboarding with her Digital Application to backend tracking with BluMortgage CRM, her processes are colour-coded and intentional. She even writes meeting notes by hand before digitizing them—proof that old-school habits can blend seamlessly with modern efficiency. For new brokers, her advice is clear: “Embrace systems as soon as you can.” It’s a game-changer that’s kept her organized, especially during busy seasons.


The Art of Client Relationships

Herjit’s approach to clients is refreshingly human. It starts with a virtual discovery call where she sets the tone: “This is about you getting to know me and me getting to know you.” She asks questions—not just about mortgages, but about their kids, vacations, and favorite restaurants. Why? “I genuinely care,” she says. This isn’t a sales tactic; it’s who she is. Her transparency shines through, too. She tells clients upfront, “If all you want is a mortgage, do it online. But if you want someone in your corner, I’m here.”


A standout story? A couple came to her pre-pandemic for a refinance. When one hesitated to share their credit, Herjit read the room, gave them space to talk privately, and uncovered a hidden debt crisis. She guided them through a cleanup plan, saving their finances—and, they insist, their marriage. “It’s not about me,” she deflects humbly. “We just did their mortgage.” But her clear, consistent communication and care turned a transaction into a lifelong client bond.


Balancing Business and Life with Intention

Mortgage brokering can be stressful and isolating, but Herjit’s approach to work-life balance is as structured as her business. “Balance is what you define it to be,” she says. For her, it’s about leading her life intentionally. She plans her personal life monthly—date nights with her husband, one-on-one time with her daughters—and her business weekly, with time blocks color-coded in her calendar. She even does a year-end audit, tracking not just revenue but families helped, ensuring her goals align with her values.


Coaching has been a recent boost, too. Weekly sessions with a blunt, successful mentor help her refine her ideas without sacrificing family time—a non-negotiable for her. And yes, she travels to cool destinations, prioritizing vacations over fancy cars. Her takeaway? “I had no idea what I was capable of when I started. Leverage what you know.”


Why You Should Tune In


Herjit Driver’s episode is packed with actionable insights—whether you’re a broker looking to refine your process, a parent juggling work and family, or just someone who loves a good success story. From her sink-or-swim beginnings to her Hall of Fame status, she proves that tenacity, systems, and genuine care can take you far. Plus, her blunt, no-nonsense style is as refreshing as it is inspiring.


Don’t take my word for it—watch or listen to the full episode of Herjit Driver - Behind the Broker on Apple, Spotify & YouTube. You’ll walk away with practical tips, a renewed sense of possibility, and maybe even a urge to plan your week like Herjit does. Trust me, it’s worth the time!


By Dean Lawton July 23, 2025
Behind the BROKER with Vy Tri Truong - Mortgage Professional In the latest episode of Behind the Broker (Ep. 46), we sat down with Vy Tri Truong, one of A Better Way’s top brokers and one of the most strategic minds in Canadian mortgage brokering. Vy brings a completely different perspective to the industry—one rooted in financial planning, fiduciary duty, and long-term thinking. As someone who identifies as a financial advisor first and a mortgage broker second, Vy is helping reshape what it means to truly serve clients in today’s complex lending environment. From his early struggles as a broker to his rise as a trusted advisor to families and investors, Vy’s story is packed with takeaways on how to build a sustainable, value-driven mortgage business. Whether you’re a new agent or a seasoned pro, this episode will challenge your assumptions—and likely change your approach. From Failure to Financial Fluency Vy’s first stint as a mortgage broker in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis didn’t go as planned. With limited leads, rate-focused conversations, and little traction, he eventually stepped away from brokering and took a role at Scotiabank. That experience gave him an inside look at the retail banking machine—where he learned first-hand how misaligned incentives and product pushing often came at the client’s expense. After roles at HomeEquity Bank and Manulife (where he helped launch inside sales teams and worked closely with financial advisors), Vy was ultimately let go—but that firing turned into a blessing. It led to a conversation with a financial planning firm that saw the opportunity to integrate mortgage strategy into comprehensive financial planning. Vy joined their team, became a licensed advisor, and re-entered the mortgage world with a new vision. Planning First, Mortgage Second Vy’s model begins with one core principle: strategy before structure. Every client conversation starts with a financial planning discussion. Vy digs into retirement goals, income needs, investment performance, and estate planning before making any product recommendations. “It’s not about the mortgage—it’s about what the mortgage is going to do for your life,” Vy says. From reworking pension income and recommending reverse mortgages, to restructuring real estate portfolios for tax efficiency, Vy’s approach is built on planning, not products. In one memorable example, he helped a couple retire by selling a single property tax-free through careful use of RRSP room, debt recycling, and investment planning. These are high-impact strategies rarely seen in day-to-day brokering. Doing the Right Thing, Even if It Costs You Vy is quick to turn away deals that don’t make sense for the client—sending them back to their bank if that’s the better path. He believes in treating every client like family, and always acting in their best interest. “We try to lose the deal before we do any work on it,” he says with a laugh. “If the rate is unbeatable, we send them there. But often, after a full planning session, they choose to work with us because they see the bigger picture.” This long-term thinking has earned Vy deep loyalty and multi-generational relationships with clients. And in a market increasingly driven by rate shopping and AI-generated “solutions,” it’s a powerful differentiator. Tools and Simplicity that Scale Despite the complexity of his client strategies, Vy’s tech setup is remarkably simple. He uses Trello for pipeline tracking, relies on email as his task list, and avoids paper altogether. Email summaries after every client meeting help him document conversations, maintain compliance, and build clarity for all parties. He also emphasizes eliminating jargon and picking up the phone when email threads get too long. “Clients don’t know mortgage terms, and they won’t ask,” he says. “Our job is to make things simple.” Health, Energy, and Seasons of Growth Vy shares openly about how the intensity of his work was impacting his health. Last November, he hired a personal trainer, committed to a strict weekend fitness regimen, and completely turned things around. The results? Better focus, more energy, and renewed mental clarity. He also talks about the natural “seasons” of this business—times to push hard, and times to rest. “Give yourself grace. This isn’t forever,” he reminds brokers navigating burnout. Training, Mentorship, and Giving Back Vy has built a reputation within ABW for his generosity in sharing knowledge. His internal training session on financial planning for brokers is still one of the most-watched in the organization’s history. As someone who struggled to find support early in his career, Vy now actively mentors newer brokers and even helped ghostwrite DLC’s original Getting Started Right guide. His advice for newcomers? Learn by doing, find a mentor—or better yet, ask to work for free on real deals. “Ten files will give you six months of experience,” he says. Why Vy Chose ABW After working with ABW as a lender rep, Vy saw a group that operated with transparency and integrity—refusing volume bonuses, trip incentives, or hidden spreads. When he returned to brokering in 2020, he knew exactly where he belonged. “These guys were the real deal. I told them if I ever got back into brokering, I was coming here. And I did.” Final Thoughts Vy’s story is more than just a comeback—it’s a blueprint for doing business the right way. It’s proof that when you lead with strategy, serve with integrity, and build with the long game in mind, success takes care of itself. 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Ty offers insights on how he’s used platforms like Instagram and TikTok to showcase listings, humanize his brand, and build massive organic reach. He dives into why authenticity beats production value, and how simply showing up—sharing market updates, personal stories, and behind-the-scenes glimpses—can drive engagement and trust at scale. Chase Shymkiw: Negotiation, Mindset, and Staying Resilient Chase Shymkiw discusses the mental side of the business—especially in a market where volatility has become the norm. He shares his approach to negotiation under pressure, the importance of mindset rituals, and how staying client-focused (even when deals get stressful) is what ultimately sets top agents apart. Chase also offers tips for brokers looking to support agents through tough transactions and keep deals moving without compromising client experience. The New Buyer Psychology: What’s Changed and What Hasn’t One of the key themes across the panel is the evolution of buyer and seller expectations. Clients are more informed—and more skeptical—than ever. Interest rates, affordability, and fear of making the “wrong” move weigh heavily on decision-making. But what hasn’t changed is the need for trusted advisors who can simplify the process, provide reassurance, and bring clarity to the chaos. As Ally, Mike, Ty, and Chase all agree, speed matters—but empathy and patience still win loyalty. Collaboration Over Competition: The Broker-Realtor Dynamic Throughout the conversation, all four panelists highlight why great outcomes hinge on proactive collaboration between brokers and agents. When brokers communicate early, anticipate issues, and keep everyone informed, the process becomes smoother for clients—and less stressful for everyone behind the scenes. The group shares examples of how brokers can stand out by being solutions-focused partners, not just rate providers. For brokers, this is a clear reminder: if you want more referrals, start by making the realtor’s job easier. Why Personal Branding Is Non-Negotiable Every panelist emphasized the importance of building a brand that feels personal and authentic. In an era where consumers find you online long before they meet you in person, branding isn’t just about logos—it’s about trust signals. Whether it’s Ty’s video walkthroughs, Mike’s community initiatives, Ally’s education-first approach, or Chase’s negotiation insights, each realtor has found ways to own their narrative and connect with clients on a human level. The takeaway is simple: in a crowded market, clients don’t just choose your services—they choose you. Final Thoughts This Realtor Panel is a masterclass in mindset, marketing, and modern client service. Ally Ballam, Mike Marfori, Ty Corsie, and Chase Shymkiw each demonstrate that while the market will always change, the fundamentals of trust, consistency, and proactive communication never go out of style. If you’re a mortgage broker, this episode is your invitation to rethink how you engage with realtors, create value, and become the kind of partner agents can’t imagine working without. The market will reward those who adapt—and this conversation is proof that the blueprint already exists. Why You Should Listen This episode delivers a rare, unfiltered perspective from four of Canada’s most respected real estate professionals. You’ll hear exactly how they’re winning listings, nurturing client relationships, and driving consistent business in a volatile market. Whether you want to strengthen your realtor partnerships, level up your personal brand, or simply understand what today’s buyers and sellers expect, this conversation is packed with actionable insights you can apply right away. 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It’s a clear-eyed look at where we are, where consumers want us to be, and how smart partnerships between brokers and lenders will define the next decade. The Disconnect Between Expectations and Experience Jeff begins by breaking down his own experience applying for a mortgage—ironically, while running a company that was in the process of building one. The takeaw ay? “It felt like 2005.” Despite having the credentials, documentation, and income most lenders would love, he was forced to upload the same PDF multiple times, chase updates via email, and navigate platforms that felt neither intuitive nor modern. This pain point is more common than it should be. In a world where consumers can book flights, buy cars, and trade stocks from their ph ones, the mortgage process still feels slow, siloed, and opaque. Neo aims to solve that—not just with sleeker UX, but with a full reimagining of how lending works at every touchpoint. What Neo Is Really Building Jeff clarifies that Neo is not just trying to be “a better lender. ” It’s rebuilding the financial stack, ai ming to become the full-service financial partner for the modern Canadian. For mortgages specifically, this means vertical integration across the customer journey: onboarding, document collection, communication, and funding—wrapped into a single experience that feels fast, personal, and frictionless. Unlike many Fintechs that bolt on a few tools or outsource their backend to traditional banks, Neo is focused on controlling the entire customer journey to eliminate handoffs and elevate clarity. Where Brokers Fit Into the Future One of the most compelling parts of this conversation is Jeff’s recognition th at brokers are not the problem—they’re part of the solution. Despite being a founder of a tech company, Jeff sees broker s as key partners in the mortgage process, especially for clients who need education, advice, and strategy. Technology, in his view, should augment the broker’s value, not replace it. Neo’s vision is to provide tools th at give brokers more transparency, faster deal movement, and better client communication, so they can focu s on what matters: building trust and closing smart. Speed Without Sacrificing Trust Consumers today expect speed, visibility, and on-demand access —but when it comes to mortgages, they also want trust, empathy, and human advice. That balance is what Neo is working to strike. Jeff emphasizes that clients will continue to value brokers who act as advisors—but they’ll lose patience with outdated processes, paper-based workflows, and unresponsive systems. To win moving forward, brokers must pair their relationship-building s kills with modern infrastructure—and le nders must provide that infrastructure in a way that supports, not competes. Generational Shifts Are Already Here Jeff explains t hat millennials and Gen Z are not “up next”—they’re already driving the housing and financial market. Their expectations are shaped by companies like Shopify, Tes la, and Amazon—not traditional banks. They want everything faster, clearer, and mobile-first. But they also crave connection and service. Neo’s approach is to meet them there —fusing design thinking with deep financial literacy, and crea ting a system that works for this generation, not the last. For brokers, the message is clear: evolve with your clients or risk becoming irrelevant. The Neo Difference So what truly separates Neo from the pack? They’re not outsourcing the tech. Neo builds its systems from scratch to ensure every experience is seamless. They’re vertically integrated. Neo controls the flow of communication between borrower, broker, and funder. They’re broker-aligned. Rather than cutting out brokers, they’re building tools to support them. They’re thinking long-term. This isn’t about chasing the lowest rate—it’s about delivering real value to Canadians over time. Jeff sees a future where brokers can do more deals, with le ss back-and-forth, and better client satisfaction—all powered by smart technology and supported by human connection. Final Thoughts Jeff Adamson’s perspective is a powerful reminder that innovation in the mortgage industry isn’t just about digitizing forms—it’s about rethinking the entire experience from the ground up. As consumers evolve, so must the systems, processes, and partnerships that serve them. Neo Financial isn’t just building a faster mortgage; they’re building a smarter ecosystem—one that supports brokers, empowers clients, and challenges the status quo of traditional lending. For brokers, the message is clear: embracing change doesn’t mean abandoning relationships. In fact, with the right tools and tech-enabled partners, your ability to build trust, deliver value, and grow your business has never been stronger. This episode is both a wake-up call and an invitation—to stay curious, stay adaptable, and lean into the opportunities that transformation brings. Why You Should Listen This episode delivers a bold yet practical vision for the future of mortgage lending. Jeff Adamson, Co-Founder of Neo Financial, shares what’s broken in today’s mortgage experience and how Neo is reimagining the process to align with modern consumer expectations. From building a vertically integrated platform to empowering brokers with smarter tools—not replacing them—Jeff outlines how Neo is transforming outdated systems into fast, intuitive, and relationship-driven solutions. 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From day one, the company was structured with institutional governance and long-term performance in mind. Mike shares how the early team made a calculated decision to start with 65% LTV and 3- to 5-year terms—unheard of in the space—to build a high-quality portfolio and win confidence from investors and partners alike. That early discipline is now paying off: renewal rates are tracking at 80%, arrears are below expectations, and Glasslake continues to grow while maintaining tight risk controls and a clear credit box. From Zero to a Billion: A Founder’s Playbook Mike’s origin story in lending—rising from a mortgage advisor in the UK to executive leadership at Home Trust—set the stage for Glasslake’s trajectory. He led high-impact initiatives like the "Zero Team," converting dormant brokers into billion-dollar contributors, and later ran Home Trust’s operations across Western Canada. The takeaway? Growth is earned through operational discipline, clear underwriting, and relentless broker engagement—not by being everything to everyone. The Glasslake Philosophy: Simplicity, Structure, and Story Glasslake positions itself as a “missing middle” lender: the stop between big alt players and the private MIC world. Their focus is on structure and sustainability—not just equity lending. Mike emphasizes that deals must make sense not only on paper but in real life, with story-based underwriting and thoughtful pricing that balances risk and client outcome. That mindset is supported by their “UPUP” culture—Underwriters Pick Up Phones—a simple but powerful internal motto that puts communication front and center. Communication: The Competitive Advantage Brokers Need In a world where emails dominate and turnaround times drive decisions, Glasslake stands out by making communication personal. Their underwriters handle files cradle-to-grave, and escalations are streamlined straight to credit leadership. Mike stresses the importance of proper deal notes, proactive context, and broker-underwriter collaboration—especially in the alt space, where every file has a story and nuance matters. Commercial Lending: A Rare and Rising Edge While many lenders avoid commercial, Glasslake leans into it. With both small-balance (under $5M) and large-balance commercial programs, they’re one of the few alt lenders enabling brokers to scale beyond residential files. Mike shares how his team supports newer commercial brokers with co-pitched calls, structure guidance, and product clarity—a unique value-add in a segment where confidence often lags opportunity. Tech-Enabled, Not Tech-Replaced Mike is clear: technology should support, not replace, human decision-making. Glasslake is investing in “micro-innovations”—automation tools that enhance speed and consistency without eroding judgment or story-based lending. Initiatives include automated bank statement parsing for faster approvals, probability-of-funding models, and internal efficiency tools—all aimed at helping underwriters and brokers operate smarter, not just faster. What Brokers Should Know: Clarity, Efficiency & Education For brokers, the message is simple: send better files, provide more context, and stay curious. Mike encourages brokers to proactively seek lender education, attend sessions, and ask hard questions. Those who invest in understanding lender guidelines—not just rates—will separate themselves as the market continues to shift. Glasslake rewards relationship-driven brokers. Submissions with solid notes and realistic structures get priority. Vague files—like “refi to 80 bro”—get parked. Efficiency is a two-way street, and Glasslake is willing to invest in brokers who bring clarity and commitment. Looking Ahead: Trends, Renewals, and Market Watch Glasslake is closely monitoring borrower behavior, renewal trends, and delinquency signals like NSF patterns. While portfolio performance remains strong, Mike acknowledges the uncertainty around home values and tightening qualification criteria across the board. That uncertainty, he believes, will continue to drive demand for structured alt lending—especially in commercial and long-term non-B20 solutions. Final Thoughts: Leadership, Trust, and a Long-Term Game Mike closes with a reflection on leadership and team building. From launching Glasslake solo at his kitchen table to now leading a 20+ person team with growing market share, he attributes success to clear values, fast decision-making, and surrounding himself with resilient, entrepreneurial talent. The message to brokers? Glasslake is in this for the long haul—and they’re building a lender that’s as committed to your success as they are to their own. Why You Should Listen This episode offers a rare, behind-the-scenes look at how a modern alternative lender is scaling responsibly—and what that means for brokers. Mike Forshee brings transparency, strategic depth, and grounded leadership to a segment that’s often misunderstood. From pricing discipline to commercial deal support, from communication culture to tech investments, Glasslake is positioning itself as a lender brokers can grow with—not just close deals through.  If you’re working in the alt space—or planning to—this episode is essential listening. Don’t miss the full conversation! Listen or watch now on your preferred platform! For weekly market updates, sign up for the ABW Tuesday Mortgage Memo . If you’re a broker considering a network change or looking to grow, reach out to us to explore how we can support your success.