
Behind the LeNder WITH Steve ponte of phl capital
In the latest episode of Behind the Lender (Ep. 40), we had the privilege of sitting down with Steve Ponte, CEO of PHL Capital, to dive deep into the world of alternative mortgage lending. From the origins of PHL Capital to its current billion-dollar portfolio, Steve shared invaluable insights on the company’s journey, lending philosophy, and the evolving landscape of the mortgage industry. Whether you’re a mortgage broker, investor, or simply curious about alternative lending, this episode is packed with takeaways you won’t want to miss.
Key Highlights from the Episode
The Birth of PHL Capital
Steve recounted how PHL Capital began in 2006 as a modest investment club with just $635,000 in assets under management. Initially focused on small second and third mortgages, the company grew steadily, hitting $10 million by 2013 and now managing nearly $1 billion. Steve’s experience at Toronto Dominion Bank, where he was exposed to mortgage investment corporations (MICs), planted the seeds for PHL’s unique approach to common-sense lending.
A Full Suite of Lending Solutions
Unlike many MICs that specialize in either residential or commercial lending, PHL Capital excels in both. From residential second mortgages to complex commercial land development deals, PHL offers a broad spectrum of products. Steve highlighted their comfort with large loans—some exceeding $30 million—attributing this to their banking background and focus on sophisticated borrowers.
Common-Sense Lending and Relationships
PHL’s lending philosophy is rooted in common-sense underwriting, prioritizing plausible exit strategies and logical deal structures. Steve emphasized the importance of broker relationships, noting that trust and track record play a critical role in approving “gray area” deals. PHL’s commitment to speed—often turning around commitment letters in hours—sets them apart in a competitive market.
Investor Transparency and Responsibility
Steve’s approach to investor relations is refreshingly transparent. At PHL’s annual investor nights, stakeholders, including auditors and bankers, are available for unfiltered Q&A sessions. Steve takes personal responsibility for investor outcomes, stating, “The buck stops with me.” This accountability, combined with stable returns, has attracted a diverse investor base, from teachers to dentists, with less than 30% in the real estate sector.
Navigating Compliance and Technology
The alternative lending space has seen significant regulatory changes, with PHL now navigating 14–15 regulators across multiple provinces. Steve views compliance as a consumer protection necessity, not a burden, and PHL has invested heavily in this area. On the tech front, PHL is embracing innovation, transitioning from Excel-based portfolio management to scalable systems while cautiously exploring AI’s potential amidst regulatory constraints.
The Future of Alternative Lending
Steve is optimistic about the growth of alternative lending, driven by banks’ tightening policies and borrowers’ need for flexible solutions. He noted a shift in borrower profiles, with PHL’s average beacon score now at 730, reflecting a more creditworthy clientele seeking short-term solutions. For brokers, Steve advises mastering the full lending spectrum—prime and alternative—to stay competitive.
Advice for Aspiring MICs
Starting a MIC today is far more challenging than in 2006 due to heightened compliance and capital-raising barriers. Steve’s advice? Surround yourself with good people, seek expert advice, and prioritize consumer protection to maintain a clean and reputable operation.
Why You Should Listen
This episode offers a rare glimpse into the operations of a leading MIC, from its entrepreneurial roots to its sophisticated present. Steve’s insights on broker relationships, common-sense lending, and industry trends are invaluable for anyone in the mortgage space. Plus, his candid take on compliance, technology, and investor relations provides a holistic view of what makes PHL Capital a trusted partner.
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